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WinterHawk?N39XD XD stands for Experimental Dragonfly and 39 is the plans set number registered. My Dragonfly was built off the 1st commercially sold set of plans. 38 people registered theirs with Viking before the guy I got them from got around to it. Otherwise mine would have been N01XD
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Hi Tom,All is well here in Rhode Island - WinterHawk Technology became WinterHawk Vineyards ;) Went from one big boat to two smaller boats - a day sailer and a Mahagony runabout. N58WH is in the basement of the winery, and I am helping the new owner, Fredd Baber, get it re-commissioned. Amazing I am foil windsurfing, but the FAA will not hear a medical after the embolism. Flying three feet off the water is pretty cool though! I have those pages somewhere, will see if I can find them and get them over to you.RickN58WHFigured out why Whiskey Hotel yet? lol
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Thanks for the replies. I found what I was looking for.
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Hey Rick, I hope all is well.I totally get your point however these are daggerboards not a center board, so they experience a little less side loading. The foil is a standard 8 to 1 ratio asymmetrical profile. I forgot the NACA number. I agree with both of you that it's important to overbuild. It will have a uni spar just like the Dfly wing and canard. Then uni skin and 45 deg final skin.I just don't remember how many layers, weight, and orientations. It would be great if I could get a PDF of those pages in the plans.Thanks again!
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Years ago I bought a new Hunter 26. They have a tilting keel so it can go in shallow water or easily load onto a low trailer.
I was sailing it in the bay near CorpusChristi Texas. The keel broke in half. Hunter marine wouldn’t do anything about it. The keel was made wrong in my opinion. It was made from high density foam, reminded me of klegicell foam then covered on the outside with X number of layers of bidirectional cloth. One side of the center board did not break but acted like a hinge holding the bottom half on.
I took the keel off carried it home, laid it onto my work table and cut a two inch groove top to bottom beside the pivot point down to the remaining skin. Rough sanded the remaining inside skin surface. Then being a Rutan Longeze and Defiant builder I filled the groove with single strand S glass to form a solid beam/spar top to bottom then ground down the top broken skin re-glassed all of that. Anyway there are tremendous forces on those keels especially one as large as you need. What ever you do I recommend you building yours with internal beam/spar construction not just surface layups like Hunter Marine did on their 26’ tilt keels.
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Tom,May I suggest that while a DF weighs in at +700 or so pounds, your 42 footer weighs a bit more. The more prudent direction would be to engage a marine architect to come up with a design schedule for your center board. I did get composite work from my DF experience with MacMillian Yachts, however quickly realized it was for technique not design experience. Another avenue is that some composite material providers have in-house design help.Best of luck - fair winds and following seas.Rick DyerN58WH
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Hey everyone,
Been a little quiet these past few years. Bought and sold a Mooney 201. Now my new project is a 42 ft 1994 Lagoon TPI Catamaran. I need to build new 12 foot daggerboards for it. I will be using the same layup schedule as the Dragonfly canard. Problem is my set of Dragonfly plans are in the hanger in California and I am in Florida. I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to respond with the FG and CF types and weights for the canard. I have also forgotten how what order the layers are. It's been 20 years since we made my wings.
BTW I still have N39XD, Just have now flown here in 3 years.
Thanks. It's good to see a couple new builders and flyers out there.
Tucson Tom. Soon to be Caribbean Tom. N39XD -
Vern,
Reg Clarke of Canada and Chris Waterson both of Canada both put Subies on Dragonflies, AFIK Chris still has his.
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Please tie the buyer with us. No fears about being without assistance. I know the Q2 has flownsuccessfully with the EA81 so probably no issues with the Dragonfly either.I have this issue with an LSA I own too.. no support group at all! But..fortunately it is a rathersimple aluminum wing and steel tube and fabric fuselage and tail feathers design.
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Congrats to the new owner..
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Congrats to the new Project Parent! Hate to see any planes cut up and disposed of…Blue Skies everyone!
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Steve,
You put a lot of effort, time, and money into your project. But, sometimes parting company is the right thing to do, though very hard.
Thank you for offering it up to someone ready to take on a project, and to hopefully fly it someday.
Terry
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KSCKOn 8/9/2022 12:41 PM, -steve wrote:I started building this Viking Dragonfly in 1995. Progress stopped about 2005. It sat in my garage since then. Recently, I assembled the fuselage, wings and controls in the back yard. I can now sit in the cockpit, make airplane noises and move the stick and rudder pedals to see the control surfaces move. But I’m done now.
If I lived next to a rural airport with a 6000’ runway, and had an air conditioned and heated hangar, I might consider continuing to fiddle with it. $20,000 and lots of hours might get into the air someday. I live half way between KSTL and KSET. KSTL is too big and KSET is on the wrong side of the Missouri river.
It will not return to the garage.
If you want it, come and get it. Bring your big truck or trailer and plenty of help. I will unbolt the wings, which can be carried by two people. The fuselage can be pushed around on its gear like a wheelbarrow.
If you don't want it, soon I will start disassembling it with a recip saw and move it in little pieces to it’s new home in a dumpster.
-- Communication ink and paper free
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We have a buyer! Consider it gone until, perhaps, further notice.
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The pictures look fine to me on this website, but the message copy that showed up in my email has busted pictures. What did I do wrong?
I'm located in the St.Louis , MO area,
Seems like there might be some competition for this. The price is still $0, but I think the first one to show up with the means and willingness to pack it up and haul it away gets it. It's a package deal: take all or nothing.
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None of the images came through on this end, just the names of the files. Is it me or did something go sideways?
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I would love to have it. Can you give me more information about where it is located?
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Tarp trying to keep the rain out.Canard is filled and primed.Fiberglass 'hoop' gear spring, Cleveland wheels.Rudder pedals brake cylinders...tail wheel per plans. Crank looks upside down to me.'Light Smoke' canopy. No latches.Rear hinged luggage hatch... my finest innovation. I'd probably glass it down before flight.Not much panel.Aileron links.Wing filled on the bottom. Not primed. Top of wing is unfilled.Motor mount and intake manifold for Subaru EA81..Engine was running fine when I removed it from my daughter's car with 160,000 miles. Bell housing trimmed, Nothing rebuilt inside.
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I have a messy handwritten log and a stack of photos.
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Do you have any paper work - building logs, photos, anything like that?
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Plans included.
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Hello. I would gladly take that from you. I am in North Carolina and always loved the Dragonfly. I would need to rent a truck out where you are to drive it back here. Would the plans come with it?
Thanks,
Pat Doyle 910-787-0545 -
If I was closer I'd be tempted I did post everything but your email address to homebuiltairplanes.com. Have you posted it to the Dragonfly group on facebook?
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Somebody please rescue this project!I just transported my MkIIH to be closer to home. I would go and get it but quitting my job for an airplane rescue is not in the cards for me.It would be a real shame to see a project this far along go into a dumpster.
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I started building this Viking Dragonfly in 1995. Progress stopped about 2005. It sat in my garage since then. Recently, I assembled the fuselage, wings and controls in the back yard. I can now sit in the cockpit, make airplane noises and move the stick and rudder pedals to see the control surfaces move. But I’m done now.
If I lived next to a rural airport with a 6000’ runway, and had an air conditioned and heated hangar, I might consider continuing to fiddle with it. $20,000 and lots of hours might get into the air someday. I live half way between KSTL and KSET. KSTL is too big and KSET is on the wrong side of the Missouri river.
It will not return to the garage.
If you want it, come and get it. Bring your big truck or trailer and plenty of help. I will unbolt the wings, which can be carried by two people. The fuselage can be pushed around on its gear like a wheelbarrow.
If you don't want it, soon I will start disassembling it with a recip saw and move it in little pieces to it’s new home in a dumpster.
Stick aft while parked?
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