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Tom------------ The first pictures I sent were of the Q200 I have, but I found some pictures of the setup I have in my Dragonfly. Very similar.
The plastic bags are full of cement for gross weight test and the thing on the dash that looks like a lawnmower throttle, is a lawnmower throttle and it controls the aileron reflexor. have fun--------------- Chris in Canada
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Tom------------ Those parts are not from a Dragonfly. There is no trim on the rudder, only aileron and elevator. It shows in the plans how they are built and installed. Here is a picture of mine. The center, in front of the stick is aileron trim , left and right. The small wheel on the dash in front of the throttle is elevator trim. I also use an aileron reflexor that I really like and would consider essential.
Hope this helps---------------- Chris
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Hello all,
Does anyone have any pictures of how the friction devices work for the trim? I am in the process of reinstalling and am a bit confused on how they operate.
Thanks
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Correction, opening credits. My bad.
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Those responsible have been sacked. Those responsible for the sacking have been sacked.Monty Python and The Holy Grail - ending credits.
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List Dad here This user has been banned
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Damn!And I was about to give him all of my bank account info.Anthony Parker, Mechanical EngineerFrom: main@DragonflyList.groups.io <main@DragonflyList.groups.io> on behalf of Fred Worrell <f.worrell@...>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2022 6:23:08 PM
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Damn!And I was about to give him all of my bank account info.Anthony Parker, Mechanical Engineer
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We have a scammer on the list.
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Hi, How are you doing?Can i ask for a quick favor from you? I'm unavailable on phone, Do you have an Amazon account ?Thanks.
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Why? It's only your 40th annual 29th birthday.
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I became a 69er in February. I refuse to count any more birthdays.
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Happy birthday.....definitely good for another thirty years.
Terry
N41521On 10/31/2022 8:37 AM, Dorothea Keats wrote:I turned 69 on Saturday and Sunday the weather was pretty good so I went out to the airport. The Seahawker and Q200 where out of annual, but , the old faithfull Dragonfly was sitting there needing a buzz.
Because of the testing on the other airplanes I had flown the Dragonfly less than 10 hrs this year. Took a while to get it fired up because of the cold, but away she went.
The air was thick and performance great. 3500 rpm and see 160 mph cruise. Flew around in the extremely calm air and came in for a landing. Close to the runway I noticed some seagulls, so a few lbs of boost in the Subaru turbo and I scared them away for another attempt. They may think I am a relative the way it looks.
Next landing was great and I taxied back to the hangar. 804 hrs and over thirty years and never been dissapointed.
That will probably be it for the year. Time to get out the X country skis and do something different.
The Dragonfly was the first airplane I built and will always be special. Looking forward to another thirty years.
Still having fun-------------- Chris in Canada-- Communication ink and paper free
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I turned 69 on Saturday and Sunday the weather was pretty good so I went out to the airport. The Seahawker and Q200 where out of annual, but , the old faithfull Dragonfly was sitting there needing a buzz.
Because of the testing on the other airplanes I had flown the Dragonfly less than 10 hrs this year. Took a while to get it fired up because of the cold, but away she went.
The air was thick and performance great. 3500 rpm and see 160 mph cruise. Flew around in the extremely calm air and came in for a landing. Close to the runway I noticed some seagulls, so a few lbs of boost in the Subaru turbo and I scared them away for another attempt. They may think I am a relative the way it looks.
Next landing was great and I taxied back to the hangar. 804 hrs and over thirty years and never been dissapointed.
That will probably be it for the year. Time to get out the X country skis and do something different.
The Dragonfly was the first airplane I built and will always be special. Looking forward to another thirty years.
Still having fun-------------- Chris in Canada
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Well the move went well with minor damage to a fairing. I will be inspecting better as I assemble the plane. Waiting for the weekend for additional resources to start assembly of big pieces.
I have my friend an A&P IA to put another critical set of eyes on it before flight test resumes.
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Hello “List Mom”, and other members of the group!
I am indeed involved with the Electric Dragonfly project in Delft for a couple of years already. I find the aircraft very fascinating and am curious what your experiences are with the building and flying of the Dragonfly. Hence me joining this group!
With the Electric Dragonfly now in driving condition at Teuge airport, together with the team I hope to bring the aircraft to the skies in due time!
Kind Regards,
Stefan Meijer
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Sent: maandag 3 oktober 2022 23:47
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Subject: [Extern]:[DragonflyList] New member welcomeLET OP: Deze e-mail komt van een afzender buiten Inholland. Wees voorzichtig met het klikken op links en het openen van bijlagen.
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Bill Higdon -
Hello “List Mom”, and other members of the group!
I am indeed involved with the Electric Dragonfly project in Delft for a couple of years already. I find the aircraft very fascinating and am curious what your experiences are with the building and flying of the Dragonfly. Hence me joining this group!
With the Electric Dragonfly now in driving condition at Teuge airport, together with the team I hope to bring the aircraft to the skies in due time!
Kind Regards,
Stefan Meijer
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As the current 'list mom" I'd like to welcome Stefan Meijer to the group, please tell us a bit about yourself. Are you associated with the Electric Dragonfly?
Bill Higdon
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Thank you for your feedback Chris and others! We'll bring it into discussion and will share our outcomes later.Regards,MarkVan: main@DragonflyList.groups.io <main@DragonflyList.groups.io> namens Dorothea Keats via groups.io <dkeats@...>
Verzonden: dinsdag 27 september 2022 15:40
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Onderwerp: [Extern]:Re: [DragonflyList] Tail-Wheel configuration OK?LET OP: Deze e-mail komt van een afzender buiten Inholland. Wees voorzichtig met het klikken op links en het openen van bijlagen.
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As I said before I have the original tail wheel set up for 30 years
and it works well. Being direct you would think it would be a problem,
but because of the very small tail wheel and very little rubber on the
runway it is not a concern. it will skid if needed.
Any of the designs we put forward are good, but there is nothing wrong
with the original.---------- Chris
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As I said before I have the original tail wheel set up for 30 years and it works well. Being direct you would think it would be a problem, but because of the very small tail wheel and very little rubber on the runway it is not a concern. it will skid if needed.
Any of the designs we put forward are good, but there is nothing wrong with the original.---------- Chris
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It’s true, the original tail wheel pushrod was very direct and resulted in instant response. Sometimes good and sometimes not. I always thought the real problem was the tail wheel itself was too small and could be overcome by the momentum of the airplane. But I never changed it so I can’t comment on any other configuration.
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Hi Mark,We have found that some compliance between the tailwheel and the rudder steering, whether is it compression springs, tension springs, or bungees, is desirable on tailwheel aircraft. The springs not only help to reduce the coupling between the tailwheel and rudder in a crosswind landing, but they can also reduce the tailwheel steering sensitivity. Personally, I find springs attached to chains to be the most flexible approach. You can easily change the length of the chains to unload or preload the springs as desired. Sometimes a stiffer spring is used on one side or the other (depending on prop rotation) to provide more steering authority to counter P-factor. Some people claim the different spring constants reduce the likelihood of tailwheel shimmy as well. Skip took this picture of the tailwheel on our Dragonfly project aircraft. It clearly needs some refurbishment and one of the alternatives we will be considering is to install chains with springs on either side of the wheel.Will Fox
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Mark,
Glad your team is making progress. This is the two spring setup on my plane.
Make sure to use compression springs.
Terry
N41521On 9/26/2022 12:46 AM, Ommert, Mark via groups.io wrote:Hi all,making progress with our electric Dragonfly, however still have some doubts about the tail-wheel configuration. The building manual describes a direct connection of the tail-wheel pushrod without a spring-system in between (see picture below). I would assume that a spring-system interface between the pushrod and tail-wheel would be recommended for crosswind landings. Is this assumption correct?What tail-wheel configuration do you have on your Dragonfly (with or without spring)? Could you send me some pictures?Regards,Mark-- Communication ink and paper free
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Inspiring! Thanks for your feedback and pictures.Van: main@DragonflyList.groups.io <main@DragonflyList.groups.io> namens Dorothea Keats via groups.io <dkeats@...>
Verzonden: maandag 26 september 2022 14:55
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Ommert------------- You can use a much smaller rod to control the
tail wheel. Most of use don't use a rod end, but rather a clevis fork
end. My Dragonfly has the plans set up and has worked for 31 years. On
my Q200 I installed the Dragonfly rudder, stab and tail steering.
Because I use the larger Q200 tail wheel I installed a spring set up
to take a bit of the sensitivity out of it.
In my Q200 I have the 2.5 turbocharged Subaru. I needed 14 lbs on the
tail wheel for C.G. so I installed a ten lb lead rod in the vertical
stab and installed 4 lbs attached to the tail wheel and enclosed it with
a fairing.
That's what I did ---------- Have fun
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